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this or why they don't care about the target that this has just put on u.s. soldiers serving abroad in what is already a very dangerous place. serious stuff. that's for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening. first look is up next. >> this were some of donald trump's biggest campaign promises and now he's taking action on a border wall with mexico and curtailing immigration. this morning, reaction is pouring in from leaders across the country. plus. >> i used to be i felt like i could be myself. now i represent women everywhere. >> mary, that's all in your head. >> what would you say if the station manager kept trotting in people this is our woman executive. >> what do you say? >> usually, hi. >> we all loved her and she revolutioned -- revolutionized
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the role for women on television. the wait is over. the doudges industrial -- dow jones industrial average has finally crossed the historic mark. ♪ ♪ hey, there, good morning, everyone. it is thursday, january 26th. i'm alex witt. president trump has taken new action on immigration. the president signed two executive orders wednesday. one with language broad enough that it could deport almost anyone in the country without legal status. included on the priorityized list are criminals convicted of olent crimes or serious
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misdemeanors, those charge with a crime. committed a chargeable criminal offense. those who committed fraud or willful misrepresentation, as well as allowing individual agents to target those they believe would pose a risk to public safety or national security. in an interview last night president trump was asked about the status of the millions of undocumented families and dreamers who now feel threatened. >> they shouldn't be very worried. they are here illegally. i do have a big heart. we're going to take care of everybody. we're going to have a very strong border. we're going to have a very solid border. where you have great people that are here that have done a great job, they should be far less worried. >> the president said he will roll out the order in the next four weeks. and the other executive order
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cracks down on sanctuary cities. he spoke to family members of people killed by undocumented immigrants. >> we're going to get the bad ones out. the criminals and drug deals and gangs and gang members and cartel leaders. the day is over when they can stay in our country and wreak havoc. >> and a draft executive order yesterday with a three-month suspension of immigration from people from iraq, syria, and sudan as well as people in the refugee program. authorities are working to root out threats among those who have already arrived. >> you are looking at people that come in many cases, in some cases with evil intentions. i don't want that. they are isis. they are coming under false pretense. we have enough problems. now, i'll absolutely do safe
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zones for people. i think europe has made a tremendous mistake by allowing these millions of people to go into germany and various other countries. president obama and hillary clinton and kerry have allowed tens of thousands of people into our country. the fbi is now investigating more people than ever before hang to do withterror, and it's from the group of people that came in. >> well, the president has so far no executive order signing this afternoon. meanwhile officials who govern in sanctuary cities reacted with alarm and defiance of the president's executive orders. >> today, january 25th, 2017, is the darkest day in immigration history in america since the internment of the japanese americans during the second world war. >> the stroke of a pen in washington does not change the people of new york city or our
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values, it does not change how this city government protects its people. >> i believe in our sanctuary city status. i think there are hundreds of mares all over this country that are saying the same thing and we stand united that a safer city is a city that doesn't allow its residents to live in fear. >> we will not be intimidated by the threat to federal funding. we have each other's backs and we have the constitution of the united states of america on our side. if necessary, we will use city hall itself to shelter and protect anyone who is targeted unjustly. >> president donald trump also took action yesterday on his signature issue, that being the border wall with mexico. the campaign promise compared with harsh rhetoric rocketed him to the front of the republican field and ultimately to the white house. >> i will build a great, great
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wall on our southern border and mexico will pay for that wall. mark my works. >> mexican president is reconsidering whether or not he would meet with the white house next week. he said he is saddened by the president's decision, and was emphatic that mexico will not pay. for his part, president trump says the negotiations are just beginning. >> we will in a form reimbursed by mexico. >> they will pay us back. >> absolutely. 100%. >> the american taxpayer will pay for the wall at first. >> all it is, we will be reimbursed from whatever transaction we make with mexico. >> the order calls for 5,000 border control agents. house speaker paul ryan said
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that estimates between 8 to 14 billion dollars to secure the border is just about right and congress is ready to handle it. >> who is going to pay for it? >> first off, we're going to pay for it and front the money up. your follow-up question is mexico going to pay for the wall. there are a lot of different ways of getting mexico to contribute to doing this and there are different ways of defining how exactly they pay for it. >> he is reportedly looking to scale back the u.s.'s various financial obligations with international organizations. according to the "new york times" and "washington post," the potential move by the president would be part of an upcoming executive order that among other things would reduce u.s. funding for the united nations and other global bodies. that order could include, for instance, overturning funding for u.n. peacekeeping missions ordered by president obama. the draft of the order reportedly calls for a funding reduction of roughly 40% to organizations that do not align
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with the white house fiscally or ideologically and a separate order would limit u.s. participation in some global treaties. president's u.n. ambassador nikki haley has pledged to put u.s. first. it's not yet clear how a probe into fraud the election. >> what's going on with voter fraud is horrible. i would have won the popular vote if i would have campaigned in california, i would have won california. when you look at the voter registration, the dead people who are registered to vote who vote. you look at people who are registered in two states. you look at all these different things that are happening with
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registration. you look at those regulation administration -- you are going to find and we're going to do a registration. >> 3 to 5 million illegal votes. >> we could find out. >> what you've presented it's been debunked. >> take a look at the p pew reports. >> he said they found no evidence. >> really, why did he write the report? according to pew report, then he's grofleg again. i talk about the reporters that grovel when you write something. >> if you asked a million people if they called their old state to tell them me moved to another a state. that's what we were trying to measure. there's been study after study that's looked at the existence of voter fraud. the bush department looked at
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this. many have looked at this and try to prosecute it and what they find is voter fraud does exist but it exists in small levels. just a handful of cases in any given election. >> what's more, steve bannon, steve mnuchin and tiffany trump are reported registered to vote in two states. still top republicans like congressman jason chaffetz says he won't waste his committee's time looking into it. i don't see any evidence, but the president has 100,000 people at the department of justice and if he wants to have an investigation, have at it. i just don't see any evidence at all. >> president trump says he wants an investigation into voter fraud. are you for it, against it? >> i think it's fine. first of all, i'm sure there is some fraud. we passed photo i.d. in wisconsin because of our concerns about this a few years ago. if he believes there's a problem to look at, the right thing to
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do is to get an investigation, to get the facts. i haven't seen evidence of this kind of widespread numbers that we've been hearing about, so the thing to do is to get an investigation to get the facts and then make a judgment based on the facts. >> the president is not backing down on his threat to send the feds to chicago. in the interview last night, president trump said he would love to help address chicago's crime crisis. >> you can't have thousands of people being shot in a city and in a country that i happen to be president of. maybe it's okay if somebody else is president. want them to fix t problem. they have a problem thas very easily fixable. so a i'm saying is to the mayor, who came up to my office recently, i say you have to smarten up and you have to toughen up because you can't let that happen. that's a war zone. >> this is a warning. >> i want them to straighten out the problem. it's a big problem.
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>> chicago, like other cities, right now that are dealing with gun violence, wants the partnership with federal law enforcement entities in a more significant way than we're having it today. whether it's the fbi, the dea, the drug enforcement agency and the atf, all can partner and do now with local law enforcement in dealing with guns, gangs, and drug dealing. >> this coming after another violent night in the windy city. five people were shot while attending a memorial for another violence voict. -- victim. among the injured, the 12-year-old and the mother of the victim who was being memorialized. >> it's going to be sister against sister. venus and serena williams are getting set for a grand slam final. and this morning, she made
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welcome back, everyone. mary tyler moore has died at the age of 80. she helped redefine television through two iconic roles. in her late teens only to lose her job a year later with her only son richie, yet her career climbed. she played the nervous wife and mother alongside the van dyke show. the mary tyler moore show debuted in 1970. it was about a single 30-year-old who leaves a man behind in minneapolis. she gets hired by ed asner's
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gru gruff boss. >> how old are you? >> 30. >> what religion are you? >> mr. grant, i don't quite know how to say this, but you are not allowed to ask that when someone is applying for a job. it's against the law. >> want to call a cop? would you think i was violating your civil rights if i asked if you are married? >> presbyterian. >> divorced? >> no. >> never married? >> no. >> why? >> why? >> do you type? >> mr. grant, there's no simple answer to that question. >> yes, there is. how about, no, i can't type or yes, i can. you know what. you got spunk. >> well, yes. >> i hate spunk. >> love it. the show broke ground. mary richards had sex. she was on the pill and she
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challenged her boss on pay. >> you are just ignoring it. >> well, i figured it was just one of those woman things. >> no, mr. grant, it's not one of those woman things. i would like to know why the last associate producer before me made $50 a week more than i do. >> oh, because he was a man. wait a minute. because i really -- i want to understand this. i'm doing as good a job as he did. >> better. >> better. and i'm being paid less than he was because. >> you are a woman. >> well, mr. grant, there is no good reason why two people doing the same job at the same place shouldn't be -- >> he had a family to support. you don't. now why don't you come back when you have an answer to that.
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>> thank you, mary. the show spawned three spin-offs, ran serve seasons and raked in 29 emmy's. more would be nominated for her role in ordinary people. she lived for 40 years with juvenile diabetes. in 2011, she underwent brain surgery. her only child accidentally shot himself at 24. her sister died at 21 in a combination of alcohol and pain pills. she tried to help commit her brother commit suicide. but her impact on audiences everywhere is undeniable. dick van dyke tweeted there are no words. she was the best. we always said that we changed each other's lives for the
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better. mary tyler moore gone at 80. let's get a check on the weather. >> you may make me want to watch the show. i didn't watch it. it was a little before my time. i used to see all the reruns on nickelodeon back in the day. alex, the story of the upcoming weekend and over the next couple of days is going to be our return to normal winter weather. we've had quite a run. the january thaw for the eastern half of the country has been very impressive. it's coming to an end. careful driving through much of michigan. the road temperatures are borderline. it's going to be a little slick. the snowfall forecast, we're going to get the first batch of know and the lake-effect snow machine will be turning on for the weekend. the mountainous high elevations of west virginia, pittsburgh aan
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inch or so. snow belt, south towns of buffalo, outside of erie, those areas could pick up about a foot or two over the upcoming four-day period up off lake ontario. the colder air returns. it's not like brutal cold. this is typical winter cold with the mornings you'll need the hats and gloves. 2 to 3 feet of snow in the favored areas. heaviest snow outside of buffalo and north of syracuse. a lot of big cities will get some snow. we also have a little bit of wet weather out there this morning in the form of all rain heading through the carolinas. a little bit there in georgia and some of these showers will work their way through d.c., philly and new york. it will not be heavy. the forecast for today, not a bad travel day. one last warm day for the eastern seaboard. 50 in boston. still ahead, it's all in the family at the australian open. in fact, bill is going to come back wearing a tennis visor and
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straight victory against an unseeded player. this will be the ninth all williams grand slam final. serena has 23 slam finals in her career. men's side, rafael nadal faces grigor. and federer won the first two sets. wawrinka won the fourth set. a great early morning match-up. the world's fastest man usain bolt can no longer bolt three gold medals. now bolt have been stripped by their 4 x 100 meters by the beijing game in 2008. it was revealed that a member of the team, not bolt, not bolt, nesta carter revealed a doping
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violation. his sample was reevaluated last year and it tested positive for a banned substance. an appeal is planned. not in question so far carter participation in part of the winning relay in the 2012 games in london. let's turned to the nba, new orleans, russell westbrook did it again. that is his 60th triple did you believe of his career. he moves ahead of the great larry bird for number five on the all time list. the warrior, steph curry has fans of all ages. he granted a woman's 80th birthday wish by autographing her poster. after for her game, 113-103. i wonder what time i have to wake up to watch venus and
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serena play on saturday. >> imagine how many titles venus would have if she didn't have to play her sister all the time. >> it's amazing to watch. maybe it's the last one. let's hope not. still ahead the trump administration is cracking down the work by aep -- epa scientists may not be subject to review. and rare access to north korea. the country is ready to test-fire an intercontinental ballistic missile. those stories and more coming up next. not back. it's looking up not down. it's feeling up thinking up living up. it's being in motion... in body in spirit in the now. boost. it's not just nutrition. it's intelligent nutrition. with 26 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. all in 3 delicious flavors. it's choosing to go in one direction... up. boost. be up for it.
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welcome back, everyone. i'm alex witt. it's the bottom of the hour. we're starting off this morning's top stories. breaking news. two mississippi sheriff's deputies are in the hospital after a shoot-out with a robbery suspect in the city of south haven last night. neither deputy have been identified. the suspect officials suspect -- of three robberies in the area. and mary tyler moore rose to fame on her work on dick van dyke show and a show named after herself. she was 80 years old when she passed away. mexico's president is considering canceling his visit to washington next week after president trump's executive order to begin construction on that border wall. he says he will decide whether to visit when he hears back from mexican officials who are in
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washington right now. president trump says that he still believes in using water boarding and other extreme measures of ininter -- interrogation last night. this is a draft executive order would reopen the cia's black site facilities oversees and restart a program dismanled by the obama administration. people at the highest intelligence level told him that torture absolutely works. >> i have spoken to others in intelligence and they are big believers in, as an example, water boarding. because they say it does work. it does work. but do i feel it works? absolutely, i feel it works. >> so you would be okay with it as president? >> no. i will rely on general mattis and i'm going to rely on those two people and others and if they don't want to do it, it's
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100% okay with me. do i think it works? absolutely. >> those two firnls were taken aback by purported executive order to reconsider extreme interrogation tactics. politico reports that mattis and pompeo were blind sided by reports of the draft of the executive order on restarting black sites overseas. the trump administration is continue its clampdown on government agencies releasing information on the environment to the public. the communications director for president trump's transition team at the environmental protection agency, doug erickson, announced yesterday the administration is mandating any studies or data released by the agency be reviewed by the political appointees before being released. evidence of climate change and man's role in it is being reviewed.
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earlier this week it was reported that email sent internally to epa staff ordered a temporary halt on release to the public and a freeze. the latest communication by the epa was not directed by the president. despite tension in the 2016 election, paul ryan and president trump are working together. ryan mentioned two top priorities by republicans, repealing obamacare and tax reform. >> what are you doing? >> it's repealing and replace winning a better law. >> it's going to be completely go away one day and be replaced? >> in february it goes away and you won't have your health care plan tomorrow. that's not what we're talking about. we have to wait for the administration to put in place
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and we will work in conjunction with the administration passing legislation repealing and repliesing obamacare. when that actually takes place, will take some time and the administration will help determine how we phase one out and replace and phase in its replacement. the whole point of this though is to make sure we don't pull the rug out from under anybody in the meantime. >> president trump says he wants to reduce the taxes. where do you -- in your conversations with him, where do you see the tax code? >> we spend a great deal of time talking about this. right now the tax code says if you want to make something in another country and reimport it back into america, go ahead and do that. we don't want to reinconvenience at this vise that. >> how do you expect? >> our plan is end of summer. >> new ethics questions are being raised after president trump's business empire
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following rel -- rel he vagus, did revelation had doubles its fee. it now offers them potential to interact with the president who will use it as a winter white house. further adding to the ethics concerns, the company is planning a major expansion in the u.s. speaking with bloomberg, eric dan zinger says the company is planning to triple its offering in this country. congressman jason chaffetz says he's looking into whether the president has violated the lease of the d.c. hotel. he's asked for a copy of the lease. separately the trump organization announced yesterday that it had named bobby birchfield as an independent
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adviser to address any potential conflicts of interest. let's turn to business where the once elusive 20,000 point mark for the dow is history now. yesterday propelled by the president's executive orders and regulation plans, it closed up more than 155 points to a record-setting 20,068. look at that number. nancy is joining us live from london. take us behind this historic climb. >> good morning, alex. that's right. we could almost hear the party on wall street finally hitting the 20,000 mark. plenty of investors are calling it the trump rally because they see recent executive orders and indications of tax cuts on the way, infrastructure spending as a major catalyst for pushing this market higher. others will say that it's a cyclical upturn with economic momentum already under way. nevertheless, looking at these gains since election day, it's rather extraordinary.
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we're talking about a near 10% gain just for the dow jones and for november 22nd, nearly 1,000 points getting to the 20,000 dollar mark were achieved. rather impressive gains to say the least. no matter what is the cause behind the rally, there seems to be consensus the rally has further legs. the sheer psychological impact of 20,000 could invite retail investors could pour money into money markets. the countdown to wall street begins as global stocks are enjoying the ride and moving higher here in europe as well. >> very good that you got the black dress and white collar memo today. it's all good. a high profile north korean defector is speaking out against kim jong-un. some of the north's elite have began to outwardly criticize the
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government, something unheard of now. diplomats are waiting in europe to defect. it all comes as north korea says it's ready to launch an intercontinental ballistic missile at any time. >> hello from north korea, the ever defiant country. there may be a new president of the united states, but there is no sign of the new policy here. either on nuclear weapons or on missile launches. i've just had the chance to do an exclusive interview with one of kim jong-un's top officials, a man who deals with american affairs, and he told me that north korea is ready to fire a long range missile for the first time at any time, he said. now, if that happened, it would be a big challenge to president trump because this would be the first time north korea has demonstrated the ability to fire an icbm. its program is to mount a
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nuclear weapon on an icbm capable of reaching the west coast of the united states. there's no sign at the moment that north korea can do that, but if it were to launch an icbm any time soon, that would be a big step up. before he became president, donald trump tweeted it won't happen. the official told me we don't care what he meant by that, but we are ready, whatever he does. he also warned the united states to stop its war games. now, the u.s. is due to hold joint military exercises with south korea in a few weeks time. last year, it held these exercises with nuclear bombers. north korean official called that provocative. he called it nuclear blackmail and he said that was the root cause of the tensions and the dangers on the korean peninsula and he said that convinced us that we will match the united states with its nuclear weapons, match it with our own, and match
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americas missiles with our missiles. now, that is a direct challenge to president trump. cancel these military exercises if you want better relations with north korea. there is no sign that president trump wil do this. t, his sending general james mattis to south korea in his first overseas trip as the new u.s. defense secretary. that will send a message to the allies, japan and south korea and also send a message here to pyongyang. there were also hints in this exclusive interview of a bit of an olive branch from north korea. we're open, said the official, to a new relationship, if the u.s. ends what he called its hostile policy toward north korea. and he also said that north koreans are waiting to see what president trump does not just what he said during his election campaign. overall, this was hard line. we are building our nuclear
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stockpile. sanctions aren't stopping us. we're ready to launch a long range missile at any time and you, the united states, are responsible for all the problems on the korean peninsula. so this was hard line, defiant, threatening, unchanging. from the north korean capital, pyongyang, back to you. >> thank you for that report. still ahead, congressman gabbert talked about why she visited with ba sheer ashad. and actor shia labeouf we'll have more on the altercation that had him walking out in handcuffs. >> it looks like we have a
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problem. >> bad lip reading, the inauguration edition. you don't want to miss it. we'll be right back.
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>> i have many pretzels for you. >> are you cheery? i'm all like this. you are certainly not going to be. you are bad company. >> can't wait. >> oh, you suck. >> i'm important. >> you want to be me, don't you? quite a figure. quite a figure. and no. >> are you wearing a big boy shirt? >> yeah. probably never will again. >> i like you. but i hate you inside. >> you are a creep. >> i think you are old like dirt. >> repeat after me, i make grease pellets in my sweat. >> i make grease pellets in my sweat. >> crushed it. >> you think?
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>> teasing you. you look depressed. >> i don't feel good. >> no music, just me. you know what i want later, a hamburger and milk duds and not fish. >> fun. >> yea. >> i think we have intrepid repoer mark helper rin to thank for that. >> do you know what we need now? >> weather. >> let's head over to lip reader bill karins. >> i don't have much bad, i don't have much good. that's nice. we get a nice little calm period of weather again. our friends in michigan, a little bit of snow for you this morning. we have a little bit of accumulations today and tomorrow. the heavy stuff will come off the lakes as we come saturday and sunday. those pictures we see with 2 or 3 feet of snow. you'll get that off lake erie
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and lake ontario. grab the umbrella toward raleigh and d.c. temperatures are mild. a small umbrella will do. the jet stream is going to shift. it's going to bring warmer and drier conditions to the west. we've gotten nailed here with so much snow. typically we're worried about the fires, but we've had so much rain in california i'm happy to say, the fire danger is relatively low. we haven't said that in photographer about california. some benefits to our wet and snowy winter in the west. >> actor shia labeouf is in trouble again. he was arrested for an altercation outside of a new york city museum. he pulled a scarf from the face of a man, scratching his face in the process. he's got the marine hat.
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he's been appearing on the live camera outside the museum with a camera. chanting he will not divide us. earlier, a man began shouting in his face. he responded. and pushing the man's chest. >> president trump talks about the beautiful letter president obama left for him in the oval office desk drawer. tomorrow, she becomes the first foreign leader to meet with trump. we premier prime minister the british leader's visit next.
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and ts was the letter given to mey president obama. >> we saw that image of him, the final morning that he was here, putting the letter on the desk. >> which was -- i won't show it to you, read it to you, but just a beautiful letter. >> is there a line you can share that struck you most? >> there were numerous lines, so well written, so thoughtful, so thoughtful, and in the drawer, you know, put in the drawer, which is a custom, but i doubt too many of them were written in this manner. in fact, i called him and thanked him for the thought that was put into that letter. >> i have to say i have looked at a lot of those presidential
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letters that they have left for the next president. that one looks a lot longer than the ones i've seen. >> it was long. it was complex. it was thoughtful. and it took time to do it, and i appreciated it. >> sounds perfect, doesn't it? it was part of the president's interview with abc's david muirer. >> meanwhile, british prime minister theresa may is crossing the pond today. she's speaking to gop leadership at a retreat. >> threes say may is trug -- shrugging it all off as she begins her two-day charm offensive in america. she's expecting a warm
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reception. she will talk about how brexit a opportunity to build a relationship. now, friday will be the bigger day for her. she will be laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier in arlington cemetery before holding talk in the oval office with trump. her main focus obviously on getting a good post brexit trade deal with america. trump has said he's open to this and theresa is going to try to make sure he sticks to that pledge. gifts for her hosts include apple juice, quake. he will appreciate the sentiment as a nod to his scottish roots. >> thank you for that. congressman gabbard says she
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met with president assad last week. when the opportunity to meet with him, she took it. >> whatever you think about president assad, the fact is that he is the president of syria. in order for any peace agreement, in order for any possibility of a viable peace agreement to occur, there has to be a conversation with him. >> gabbard, an iraqwar veteran, member of the hou foreign affairs committee, also says she met with refugees and opposition leaders and in a series of striking tweets writes the people of syria are crying for peace, asking the u.s. to stop arming terrorist rebels who are destroying syria. and in a striking line, the u.s. must stop supporting terrorists who are destroying syria and her people. under president obama, the u.s. provided aid to anti assad militants and some rebel forces, groups the assad regime
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before tossing it over to "morning joe." president trump takes his first flight on air force one today. the president and vice president head to philadelphia to address a republican retreat. and man accused of killing his girlfriend and a police officer is expected in court today in florida. and also headed into court today is martin shkreli. his defense strategy is to blaming his lawyers.
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